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  • This is a very interesting subject and it gets down to the details of who should spin and who should glide. The points i look for in an athlete who is going to be a glider today is an athlete with a good standing throw. This happens only one of 2 ways. 1. the athlete has what i call an golden arm which is very rare in throwers (Only seen an handful of these over the years) 2.or someone that is very tall and long levered and strong especially in the upper body. Big stands take a big CNS and this …

  • Jeneva is fine. Training well. Getting into meets is always political. She is throwing hammer and shot in Morocco on the 8th and the New York DL on the 14th.

  • Fixed-Feet/ Non-Reverse Throwing

    John Smith - - The World

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    Non-reverse throwing, this is a good subject. I use non-reverse throwing all year long for about 60% to 70% of all total throws. Some athletes do it so well that their reverse throw does not beat their non-reverse. You find this a lot with tall gliders and discus throwers. I find tall rotational gliders reverse about 1 to 2 meters better than their non-reverse full. However, when the non-reverse full gets better so does the reverse full. Non-reversing simply trains the legs what to do and makes …

  • Paddy, Not talking about juniors. Seniors. Have to be on the field before you can get to the medal stand.

  • @Jim Williams testing became better. In 1988 Connie threw 62.10 and was 42nd on the world list. 1998 she threw 63.10 and was ranked 3rd in the world by Track and Field News... mainline stuff got phased out. @Tabór Abarca its better only because of the ability of 18 full rides women and 12.6 for men. 4 to 5 years free training ground for many 18 to 23 year olds. Lots of div 1 and 2 schools with money. Lots of bodies. However, when school is over the money stops and the throwers that can live chea…

  • Jeneva first threw the hammer in september of 2008. No previous experience. Got to 74.77 in less than 5 years. Connie threw 43 in high school and went to 64.4 with the glide. Europeans love the glide I don't see them changing yet... Chinese i think will stay with the glide also. No reason for them to change.

  • Jeneva threw 42 4k shot 137 disc in high school. Broke 40 only 1 time. Spinner into a glider . Only high school kids that coundnt spin well.

  • Connies best stand 17.10, Years ago i tried it a few times but never consider it. Everyone glided with the women back then. The general thought back then is you rotated only if you coundnt glide well.

  • 3k should be the womens high school ball. The training i would use is to go 1k below and 2k above. Women should be like the men ,high school to college 25% increase in weight. I used to train 4k high school girls with 6lb, 3k, 7lb, 8lb, 4k, 10lb, 5k balls in practice. 50 foot girl got a 12lb. Lifting is the same for gliders and spinners. Best stand 15.35, best glide 17.23, best spin 19.10, 20m will come with time. Light balls already in place. 22.55 3k, 20.72 3.5k just need to build in the backe…

  • Biggest stand i have ever seen was 70 feet by Kevin akins in person. Many 20m stands back during the 80s. Timmerman in his paper reported 21.89, beyer from good sources 22m.

  • Jeneva has use the glide for 8 years. Spin for 2 years. Gliding is part of the training for the spin. Rotate into a gliders finish. The glide is like a standing throw for the spin. She glides distance x then the spin will go distance x.

  • I have never seen this. I do know when deciding if somone is a glider or a spinner i run glide workouts and spin workouts equally for 3 to 6 months and see what technique produces the best marks heavy to light implements.

  • Indoor WC Men's SP 2014

    John Smith - - The World

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    Jeneva told me the ring was a 3 for her on a 1 to 10 scale with 10 being the best.. We expected a gliders ring.

  • Psychological advantages

    John Smith - - The World

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    If you are competing in your home continent training at the same comp times is good. But we Americans usually have to go across the pond for major competitions. Over the years i have found that the athletes that function well in what i called managed chaos. These are the athletes that dont sleep well or eat on a regular schledule or train the same times everyday are the ones that tend to compete better overseas. The important thing is to simulate the body at the right times to fool themselves in…

  • Throwing Into Nets/ Curtains

    John Smith - - The World

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    Paddy, I grew up in northwest indiana (portage) and the net was a big part of training. Usually november to march because of the weather back during the 70s and 80s. The girls are doing well and both with only 5 years of hammer training are in a good spot. Hammer is just time and reps. Make the heavy ball go far, make the light ball go far and the comp ball will go far. Nothing hard about hammer, we just make it that way as a country.

  • Throwing Into Nets/ Curtains

    John Smith - - The World

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    Throwing into a net is one of the best ways to learn how to throw. Especially the leg work of the throw. I have outdoor and indoor nets and currently installing an indoor hammer cage.

  • Throwing Into Nets/ Curtains

    John Smith - - The World

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    A throwing net is a lot more useful then the internet. Paddy i was thinking the same way.

  • Sam, I was a 65.1 shot, 183 disc, 200 foot hammer hack. Nothing special.

  • Daily tracking of throws will teach you how to coach. Tracking of lifting should be done also.

  • Storl has been seen throwing 20.50 from a stand by the American throwers at a major championship.